“A Rock & A Hard Place” from NGC Championship

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Dr_Mabuse avatar
4 years ago

This is far from a typical Championship video, and I loved it. But before I get into all the good stuff… Ah ha! The Crown Prince refers to the heretofore nameless guy we’ve been referring to as the Announcer as… “the Host”! I like it. It’s descriptively accurate and is an ominous-sounding name that could have multiple meanings. Also, it’s short.  Some elements of this video are notably improved by the fact that it’s Celestia suffering all these indignities. We’re used to seeing her as dignified and unflappable, but she has so many pitiful moments of debasement in this one. It… Read more »

ceej
ceej
4 years ago

2 quick observations about this one:

First, Celestia actually tries to run away from the fight at one point. I don’t think I’ve ever seen that in all these years of NGC videos, but it was a great moment, and, while it shouldn’t happen all the time, I wish it would happen every once in a while.

Secondly, the latter half made me realize we never really got a straight up Spectrum/Myanna blowoff. Hopefully that will get rectified one day….

Ken320 avatar
Ken
4 years ago
Reply to  ceej

Totally agree on the first point. I think a heroine should act like one for most of the time, and that makes their occasional break down like this even better. I think one advantage NGC has is that every character appears in multiple episodes. Therefore, the heroines have enough time to build up their characters and also can have ongoing character development. I would love to see this fight’s impact on Celestia in the future. For the second point, I remember Spectrum got double teamed by Myanna and Harbinger in season 4 episode 8, which is one of my favourite… Read more »

Dr_Mabuse avatar
4 years ago
Reply to  ceej

Thank you! That moment when Celestia tries to scramble out of the ring was amazing to me. It wasn’t just how rare it is to see a heroine try to flee like that, it’s Celestia, who’s always so brave and stalwart. That’s just one of the things that made this video special to me.

kained avatar
4 years ago

Great video. The actress who plays Celestia is wonderful, sells all the peril so well, varied expressions, and she has the perfect adorable look for this kind of role. The power difference between Curse and Celestia was well portrayed in large part through Celestia’s performance, actress is to be commended. Also greatly enjoyed the Myanna humiliation aspects. It’s the best when a situation is dire and the odds so stacked against the heroine. NGC continue to be one of the very best producers of heroine peril content.

Bert
Bert
4 years ago
Reply to  kained

Yeah, Celestria is amazing. We’re lucky to have her – she left the genre for a while but she has returned.

Darkwrath016 avatar
4 years ago

The Championship returns. With a twist. Instead of two combatants going at it in the ring we have a sort of alternate timeline where Celestia and the heroines have lost the war against the Crown Prince and the lot of them are now enslaved in the 7th Dimension. Yet even though the story’s a little different, the action and the results are the same: Heroine ends up receiving the beating of her lifetime. For this fight we have the Crown Prince enjoying the spoils of war by pitting Celestia against first Commander Curse and then the queen of darkness herself,… Read more »

Thevoice avatar
4 years ago

thought this was really good! you can tell the 3 villains (if you count the ring announcer as a villain) really love playing their respective characters. This has to be one of the most one sided beat downs a heroines ever taken in an NGC episode. (someone please correct me if I’m wrong, seriously :P)

Celestia won’t thank me for it, but I’d definitely like to see more of the same 🙂

narkos50
narkos50
4 years ago

Was gonna buy this but then I saw the trailer and thought not blooming likely- did she eat all the apple?

Bert
Bert
4 years ago
Reply to  narkos50

Fuck you, you fucking fuck.

Megan_Guzman avatar
4 years ago
Reply to  Bert

That seems harsh?

Bert
Bert
4 years ago
Reply to  Megan_Guzman

I guess that depends on how you interpret narkos50’s comment. I interpreted it as meaning the actress was overweight. Hence the slightly harsh reply.

AlyAdmirer avatar
4 years ago
Reply to  narkos50

… this has got to be the strangest attempt at an insult I’ve ever seen. Exactly what do you think one whole apple does to a person? Y’know, rumor has it, the next day she even ate a whole peach! But that hasn’t been confirmed.

PunchJonny avatar
4 years ago

Just bought it, it was pretty good. Really wished Celestia was in that catsuit longer. She really rocked it. I hope we get a full video of her in that catsuit outfit.

GrootMaster avatar
4 years ago

Bought it. Not a single knock-out-cold scene… disappointed. Hope it gets better if we can ever see Celestia again.

Kardasch avatar
4 years ago
Reply to  GrootMaster

No KOs?

dbud
dbud
4 years ago

Love Celestia (both actress and character) so I will be looking to get this one this weekend.

Jaghtastic
Jaghtastic
4 years ago

I miss the debooting videos.. 🙁

mid2018 avatar
4 years ago

Excited!

Lucas
Lucas
4 years ago

More of the same. Great production, acting, and story.

LordSnot
LordSnot
4 years ago

Celestia so instant buy. She is just so gorgeous.

Valik avatar
4 years ago

More of the same

Valik avatar
4 years ago

Actually I do purchase your videos. I have too many to count especially of Bluebird and Miss Freedom. Its my opinion that its more of the same,might not be everyones opinion. Not trying any “revolt” seems like you just want everyone to applaud you. If in my opinion its more of the same then its just that an opinion. Toughen up

Valik avatar
4 years ago

True I don’t have it yet, just judging from the trailer is all. Maybe I’m wrong

Jimt
Jimt
4 years ago
Reply to  Valik

Valik, nobody who serves up the negative opinions on this site, looks good. It’s simple. If you don’t want something, don’t buy it. Unless a producer ripped you off, you don’t need to comment. I read comments about the girls and the producers here which are totally abusive for no reason. Why so angry, bro? Most videos that come out in this genre, are not bought by any single person. But they don’t comment on each video as to why they didn’t buy it. Relax, bro. The market will handle itself.

Mike J avatar
4 years ago
Reply to  Jimt

I don’t know if I agree with saying there should be no negative opinions. If the criticism is valid, it’s valid. Like if the heroine did a poor job with selling peril, or the camera was shaky or something like that. Some people who are on the fence use reviews to make a decision, and the Pros and Cons should be laid out. Also, I’m sure producers welcome constructive criticism, as they know their products aren’t perfect. It will result if better future products than just a bunch of posts all saying great as usual.

Jimt
Jimt
4 years ago
Reply to  Mike J

Mike, i get your point, but i was speaking in context of abusive useless criticisms. That should have been understood in my context. Of course i’m not talking about shorter films than advertised, camera problems, etc. I’m just talking about personal attacks. Sorry if i didn’t make that clear. I wouldn’t agree with a criticism ban, either. Just be legit.

couchlover
couchlover
4 years ago
Reply to  Jimt

The difference is, Valik is/was a producer. It’s fair if an ordinary customer posts criticisms… but for another producer in this genre to bad mouth a video made by another producer…I think that is taboo. These producers should be working to elevate this genre. Critiques among producers should be done privately. OTW, it looks like they are trying to influence customers to not purchase from a director. I don’t think that was the intention of Valik, but he has to understand that he is not just a normal customer. He’s a producer of paid content.

HeroineLover avatar
4 years ago

Dude just ignore him he’s done it to other producers as well on superheroine forum. I could easily say as someone who’s purchased his videos his are mostly the same just different variance. With yours it’s different heroines, variety of perils depending of the story and heroines or villains but keeps changing, unlike his content. And if HE doesn’t like it maybe HE should as he said “Toughen Up” will most likely buy this one

Valik avatar
4 years ago
Reply to  Heroine Lover

Oh I agree 100% that the videos I used to shoot were basically all the same. Every video in the genre is the same. But I won’t comment anymore unless it’s with glowing praise and adoration

HeroineLover avatar
4 years ago
Reply to  Valik

Compared to yours there’s much more variety

Sugarcoater avatar
4 years ago
Reply to  Valik

Honestly, couldn’t that be very well said about your videos? They are filmed in a house, a doughy older guy chloroforms the heroine, then fondles and strips her. If you’re going to post a trite comment such as “more of the same”, shouldn’t you at least consider your productions before doing so?

Valik avatar
4 years ago
Reply to  sugarcoater

Didn’t I just say that? Learn to read please. And please tell me how saying ” more of the same” is either “abusive” or “angry”?. It’s an opinion, just don’t agree with me that’s fine. I’ve never said anything about the models, who I think are some of the sexiest out there, or anything that was remotely angry. Yea the videos I shot were the same that’s fair. But if someone said “more of the same” about one I wouldn’t get so offended as to say “please don’t comment on my videos anymore”. But whatever I’ll leave it alone and… Read more »

Sugarcoater avatar
4 years ago
Reply to  Valik

It’s the trite brevity of the comment that comes across poorly. When I read such comments, I wonder what the author intends to accomplish. What was your goal? As I see it, if you find a video repetitive, perhaps expand on the point and make an argument that might inspire the creator to make changes. Or suggest a type of change to be made. Just be honest: what did you hope to accomplish in posting “more of the same”? And to what extent can that be accomplished with such a brief post? As for the issue of repetition, there is… Read more »

HeroineLover avatar
4 years ago
Reply to  Valik

If you don’t like my comment which is about videos I purchased and was the same feeling. Maybe don’t do the same to other producers. There’s no honour in that. Except I provided reasons you did not. You are just slamming content without seeing it and it dissuades people. Maybe have constructive criticism instead of that of a trolls kind of statement

Last edited 4 years ago by Heroine Lover
Bert
Bert
4 years ago
Reply to  Valik

Valik, I’m terribly disappointed that you would post this. You’re someone who knows what it is to organize, shoot, edit and release a heroine peril film. Now granted, your films never approached the level of quality that NGC produces, but that does not give you the right to bash NGC for producing a video of high quality starring a legend in the field. I’ve always supported you, even though I’ve been disappointed many times by your films. This changes everything. You and your productions are dead to me now.

Valik avatar
4 years ago
Reply to  Bert

Oh Bert.. Please point out where I “bashed” this video? I said four words “more of the same”. No rude comment about the actress, or the location or the camera work, fight choreography which as always are top notch etc. I just said “more of the same”.You actually bashed my videos in your comment far worse than I did, which btw doesn’t upset me.

Sugarcoater avatar
4 years ago
Reply to  Valik

I think Bert’s point is perhaps to ask what was your intention by posting such a terse criticism for a video that had yet to be released. What did you want to accomplish by writing “more of the same”? Maybe elaborating as to your goal would help others understand your point.

Valik avatar
4 years ago
Reply to  sugarcoater

I still don’t see how “more of the same” is considered a “terse criticism”, it was a statement. I didn’t attack the actress like one poster here did, and only one of you had a rebuff of his post. I think we need to understand a harsh criticism be an opinion, aren’t we entitled to those?

Last edited 4 years ago by Valik
Valik avatar
4 years ago

You really don’t need to stick up for me but thanks lol.

Sugarcoater avatar
4 years ago
Reply to  Valik

If I may elaborate, as this is something I have seen in a variety of threads here, a brief statement of just a few words with a negative point comes across as terse criticism (unless you’re saying “more of the same” is not criticism, though it seems like that to me). If you perhaps could explain your goal in posting that comment, we could then better understand your position/perspective. One of my philosophies when referencing an issue is to try and problem-solve as best I can. I’m not genius, so I can’t claim to do well in trying to do… Read more »

Bert
Bert
4 years ago
Reply to  Valik

When you, a former producer, criticize an unreleased vid from another producer, particularly when the other producer has been making high quality videos for years and your own work wasn’t close to the same level, people react badly to it. All the justifications in the world after the fact will not change how petty you sounded with your first post.

Valik avatar
4 years ago
Reply to  Bert

Again I don’t understand how more of the same sounds pretty, or mean. I never said my videos I made were any better or worse than anyone and I don’t give two shits if people don’t like them. But I wouldn’t be offended if someone said they were more of the same, it’s an opinion.

Valik avatar
4 years ago
Reply to  Valik

This is the last I’m going to say because this whole thread is past the point of being ridiculous. I think maybe 99% of videos in this genre are more of the same. That includes TBFE,Rye,Primal,Damien Woods,HM, Anastasia Pierce,Sleepy Superheroines

AlyAdmirer avatar
4 years ago
Reply to  Valik

It’s a pity this is the last you intend to say on the topic, because this comment only compounds the one question you have not as yet answered: what was your point in making the comment in the first place? Was it just to chime in? And why was that even necessary if, as you say, you think it applies to “maybe 99% of videos in this genre?”

couchlover
couchlover
4 years ago
Reply to  Valik

you are a producer. you are not a regular customer. so your words carry a different meaning/weight, than an average customer. “more of the same” implies more of a negative slant. As that has been the common criticism of superheroine vids. Looking from the outside, from the perspective of a regular customer, this looks like a producer making negative comments to content made by another producers. As producers, if you want to critique each other’s work and help elevate this genre… send message privately to each other if you can. Collaborate and grow this genre.

Sugarcoater avatar
4 years ago

Good lord this looks amazing. And Celestia is just plain gorgeous.

Dr_Mabuse avatar
4 years ago

Celestia is a low-key superstar.

AlyAdmirer avatar
4 years ago
Reply to  Dr_Mabuse

Only for the uncultured. For those of us with refined taste, there’s nothing low-key about her. 🙂

HeroineLover avatar
4 years ago

I will say ignore people like valik, they’re idiots. imo this will probably be another championship vid I will get. Not normally my thing but looks interesting enough and hey it’s celestia

Krishnam Jhunjhunwala
Krishnam Jhunjhunwala
4 years ago

The scene where he’s lifting her, does that turn into a backbreaker?